By now, you have probably read about the controversy at
North Point Community Church in Alpharetta, Ga. According to the Christian
Post, a man left his wife and began a same sex relationship with someone else
in the church. These men wanted to serve as volunteers in the church while
engaging in a homosexual relationship even though the one man was still married
to his wife. The Post reports, “The
"messy" story, as Stanley described it, ended with the gay couple,
the first man's ex-wife and their child, as well as her new boyfriend and his
child from another relationship, all coming to worship together at a service in
the church. Christians, he said, are called not only to hold on to the truth,
but also to grace, which includes forgiveness and love.”
In short, a man who abandons his wife and child for another
man, the wife grabs a boyfriend who has a child from a previous relationship
and all these professing Christians end up worshipping in church together as
one big happy family in the name of Christ. Andy Stanley, rather than address
the sins of illicit divorce, homosexuality, and fornication, took the
opportunity to refer to traditional Christian beliefs on this issues and those
who hold them as follows: “Christians, he said, are viewed as being
"judgmental, homophobic, moralists" who think they are the only ones
going to heaven and who "secretly relish the fact that everyone else is
going to hell." I have never met anyone that even approaches the
description of “secretly relishing the fact that everyone else is going to
hell.” This kind of polarizing rhetoric is not only helpful, it represents
judging of the worse kind. Stanley is clearly showing his hand on how he views
homosexual behavior. In fact, he is clearly showing his view on biblical sanctification.
Stanley argues that every other command must be filtered
through the two greatest commands of loving the Lord our God with our whole
heart and loving your neighbor as yourself. However, the problem with Stanley’s
assertion is that he assumes a very particular view of what it looks like to
obey the two greatest commandments. In other words, without showing us what
these commandments look like when done biblically, he assumes a view that he
fails to prove. In fact, he doesn’t even attempt to make the effort. If one
reads Stanley correctly, the implication is that we must accept this homosexual
relationship “if” we are loving our neighbor as ourselves. Otherwise, we are
homophobic moralists who are secretly happy that they are going to hell. Why he
makes this assumption remains a mystery. Perhaps we could ask Stanley why
accepting the homosexual relationship but not the adulterous one is the loving
thing to do. After all, if the prohibition against homosexual sex should be run
through the “love” filter, why not the prohibition against adultery? Why is sex
between two men acceptable and adultery unacceptable? Why is one love and the
other not? It seems painfully obvious that such reasoning is schizophrenic.
The Post continues: God,
Stanley added, does not want us to use His law "to unnecessarily hurt and
disenfranchise people." Why is it acceptable to remove the men from service
over the issue of adultery and unnecessarily hurtful to do so over the issue of
homosexual sex?
Stanley went on to say, “Jesus'
movement was all about "how you love," but over time it became
"what you believe," he said. "If we would simply do what Jesus
did … instead of arguing about what he said, the world would change, the
reputation of Christ's followers would change, the influence of the church
would change. This is easy. This requires nothing … just a brand new
worldview."
So, according to Stanley, the content of Christian belief
was not important from the beginning. Rather, it was all about loving one
another. Being in the Christian community was about “love” and not about
beliefs and certainly not about prohibitions or law. How does Stanley’s view
compare to the NT writings? In fact, how do they compare with history? It is
fascinating to me that Stanley offers no exegetical evidence to prove his
claim. In addition, he provides not a shred of historical support tracing how
and where this emphasis changed over time.
Stanley makes three important moves in how he handles this
new controversy. First, he paints a picture of harmony, peace, and happiness
with all the parties involved attending worship together like one big happy
extended family. This strategy works in a culture where critical thinking and
beliefs have been abandoned and replaced with pure emotion, not to mention
experientialism. The scene is so surreal. Second, Stanley polarizes traditional
Christianity by engaging in ad hominem arguments. He categorizes opponents of
gay sex as homophobic moralists. This is not an argument. It is a tactic, and
not a very good one at that. Finally, Stanley contends that we must filter
every other commandment through the grid of the two greatest commandments.
These three tactics represent the strength of Stanley’s position. Where is he
going with this response? He has promised the Christian Post the possibility of
a response (whatever that means). If a response is coming, it seems Stanley is
preparing the Christian community for what that response might be.
In response to Stanley’s three tactics, it is important that
we turn to Scripture. The idea among so many younger, popular evangelical
pastors is that Jesus was revered by the world, that the world loved Him and
followed Him and that He was their buddy, their pal, the one with whom they
could really connect and feel accepted. This is the sense we get when we hear
these men preach or when we interact with the typical modern American
Christian. Is there any validity to this claim? Does this modern picture accurately
reflect the reality of Christ in ancient Palestine?
In John 6:26 Jesus said, “Truly, truly, I say to you, you
seek Me, not because you saw signs, but because you ate of the loaves and were
filled.” In other words, you seek Me because your bellies were full. You were
satisfied. Jesus was making the point that the catalyst for these seekers was
their own lustful appetite. In this case, it was their appetite for food. Jesus
was perceived to meet a need and they reasoned that following Him meant that
their needs, at least this one, would continue to be met. Hence, they followed
Jesus for their own selfish reasons. Is it any wonder that we see the very same
pattern in contemporary times? When Jesus gave these people the truth about
following Him and what would be required, “As a result of this many of His disciples
withdrew and were not walking with Him anymore.” (v. 66)
Does the world love Jesus? Jesus Himself said the world
hates Him because He testifies of it, that its deeds are evil. Jesus Himself
confessed that the world hated Him because He confronted it with its sin. The
world does not love Jesus. Again Jesus said you cannot have two masters because
you will love the one and hate the other. The world’s master is not God. The
world is hostile to God. The world hates God. (Rom. 8:6-8) Jesus said we are
blessed when people insult us and persecute us, and falsely say all kinds of
evil against us because of Him. We should rejoice and be exceeding glad for our
reward in heaven is great. In John 15:18 Jesus said, “If the world hates you,
you know it hated me before it hated you. If you were of the world, the world
would love its own; but because you are not of the world, but I chose you out
of the world, because of this the world hates you.” The antithesis could not be
clearer. Not only does the world hate Jesus Christ, it hates His disciples.
Jesus speaks about this in language that clearly indicates such hatred is
unavoidable for those who are His true followers. If you truly love Jesus, get
ready, you can expect insults, persecution, and a lot of hatred from the
unbelieving world. They hated Jesus and they will hate us. Stanley and others
who imply or outright assert that the world should love and respect us seem
oblivious to Jesus’ own words on the subject.
How is it that so many of these pastors, so-called, imply
that the church should be pals with the god-hating culture? Why do they lead so
many Christians astray with their uncritical, experiential, emotional rhetoric
and empty talk? They convince us that the world should receive us and be glad
to hear us when Jesus said just the opposite. Paul said that everyone who
desires to live godly in Christ will suffer persecution. The message of Christ
is offensive and foolish to the world. America says it loves Jesus, but by all
accounts, it sure hates His morals. I could say the same thing for much of the
evangelicalism today. People sure do love God, and they love Jesus, but they
have no use for this ethics. How does this work?
Stanley fails to address serious problems in his sermon. He
neglects the glaring problem of illicit divorce, not to mention the sin of
homosexuality. In so doing, he abandons one of his primary duties as a minister
of the gospel: the promulgation and publication of biblical truth. The blood of
Stanley’s entire congregation will be required at judgment. When men engage in
this kind of ungodly nonsense, they place themselves in grave danger of
perilous eternal judgment.
From this, we can see that Stanley’s first two tactics fail.
In fact, Stanley ends up joining the world in their insults of true Christian
dogma. By accusing those who hold the biblical position on homosexuality of
being moralist homophobes, Stanley persecutes people squarely within the body
of Christ. Such persecution should disqualify Him from ministry straight away.
Rather than stand up for the truth, Stanley joins the unbelieving crowds by
attacking and demeaning it.
Stanley’s argument that all commands should be filtered
through the two greatest commands is a gross exaggeration. Nowhere does
Scripture view other commands as filters. Stanley’s analogy here is the product
of his own warped view of how he looks at Scripture. From those two commands
flow all the other commands. What does this actually mean? It means that the
way one obeys the first command is by obeying all the others. The way we love the
Lord is by keeping His commandments. Stanley wrongly separates loving God and
obeying God. Scripture is oblivious to such a perspective. Jesus said to love
the Lord our God with all our being! Then He said, if you love me, you will
obey my commands. Loving God IS obeying God. Not obeying God IS hating God.
Disobedience is an act of despising God! Stanley does not seem to recognize
this truth.
Finally, Stanley is wrong when he contends the ancient
church did not focus as much on belief as it did on love. The truth is that
belief informs love and love fuels belief. It is a false dichotomy to set love
up over against belief. You cannot dismiss one without dismissing the other. I
had a college professor who said, “Christian love never diminishes Christian
truth.” We are to speak the truth in love! One has to ask if it is loving to
allow a person who has made the homosexual choice to think God receives them
just as they are when we know better. How is it right to leave a man in a
burning building when we could help him escape?
The contemporary Church is on the verge of being capsized by
the homosexual issue. She has lost her convictions regarding the clarity and
authority of Scripture on the issue. The truth is that she has bought into the
culture. She does not want to be persecuted for her beliefs on the issue and as
a result, she compromises with a god-hating world. She wishes to insulate
herself against insult and criticism. She is more concerned with what the world
thinks of her than she is with God’s eternal and unchanging truth. Andy Stanley’s
position is just one more attempt to be a man pleaser. It has little to do with
the actual truth of Scripture and more to do with pop-culture and public image.
It is very unpopular to be on the wrong side of the homosexual issue. However,
if the church is going to continue to be the church, she must always be on the
opposite side of the world. The world and the church simply do not mix.
The homosexual behavior between these two men should have
been cause for immediate discipline. The man who left his wife should have been
informed that he had no such right, outside of adultery. Counseling should have
ensued along with discipleship training for the couple. The homosexual man
should have received the same kind of attention. Repentance from the entire
group is the order of the day if they wish to be identified with the Society of
Christ, the Church. Jesus said it is not those who hear my words that will
enter the kingdom of heaven, but those who hear and do His words, they will
enter. Pastors who fail to point this out do so to their own peril. God makes
no exceptions and teachers will certainly be subjected to the greater judgment.
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ReplyDeleteAND THIS IS WHY I QUIT GOING TO NORTHPOINT YEARS AGO. ANDY WAS QUIETYLY SWEEPING SINS UNDER THE DOOR AND NEVER BRINGING TO LIGHT DISCIPLINE THAT COMES FROM IT. SIN REQUIRES LOVE AND FORGIVENESS BUT NO WHERE DOES IT SAY THAT SIN ESCAPES CONSEQUENCES. THE VERY FACT THEY WERE ALLOWED TO STAY IN LEADERSHIP ROLES OR SEMI LEADER ROLES SHOWS THE LACK OF DISCIPLINE IN THE CHURCH. I DON'T SEE NORTHPOINT BUT AS A BIG HAPPY SOCIAL FEEL GOOD SERVICE WITH A BUNCH OF COOL MUSIC. I ATTENDED 722 AND BOTH GOT TO BIG FOR THEIR BRITCHES. NOW GIGLIO HAS HIS OWN CHURCH AND I AM NOT SO SURE THERE WAS NOT A RIFT BETWEEN HIM AND STANLEY OVER DIRECTION. THE VERY FACT THAT REPENTANCE AND INVITATION TO FOLLOW CHRIST IS NON EXISTENT AS A DISPLAY OF COMING TO CHRIST THAT IS A DANGEROUS SIGN OF PLAYING GAMES WITH ETERNITY. IT'S UNFORTUNATE THIS RIFT HAS HAPPENED...BUT IT'S BEEN COMING FOR A LONG TIME.
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