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Presuppositionalist Responds
Dr. Richard G. Howe has raised a number of concerns about
YEC proponents adopting a presuppositional approach to their defense of the age
of the earth. Dr. Howe is admittedly a YEC proponent himself. However, Dr. Howe
is a classical apologist and therefore, it seems that Howe believes that the
only sound method for defending the age of the earth is by use of the classical
method of Christian apologetics. Dr. Howe has an outline of his concerns in PDF
form on his website in which he criticizes presuppositional apologetics in
general and Ken Ham in particular for his part in the YEC-presuppositionalism
scandal. The purpose of this blog is to interact with Howe’s statements in that
document, and to provide an alternative perspective in some cases, and a
refutation of them in other cases.
Howe states
in I.A.2, “My concern arises largely as a function of my concerns about and
objections to Presuppositionalism as such.”
No one should be surprised to hear an SES professor like Richard Howe objecting to presuppositional apologetics. In fact, I would be shocked to hear if Howe were not concerned. Like Howe, I am also concerned about apologetic method. Apologetic method is the product of theology and as such, it goes to the soundness of one’s theological understandings. Since theological understanding is the product of biblical exegesis, and God Himself speaks to us in Scripture, we are talking about what God says. Specifically, when we say that apologetics ought to be carried out in a certain way, we are actually saying that God says that apologetics ought to be carried out in a certain way. And if that method is contrary to what God says, we have every reason to be concerned. Therefore, I do not find any fault in the fact that Howe is concerned about apologetic method per se.
No one should be surprised to hear an SES professor like Richard Howe objecting to presuppositional apologetics. In fact, I would be shocked to hear if Howe were not concerned. Like Howe, I am also concerned about apologetic method. Apologetic method is the product of theology and as such, it goes to the soundness of one’s theological understandings. Since theological understanding is the product of biblical exegesis, and God Himself speaks to us in Scripture, we are talking about what God says. Specifically, when we say that apologetics ought to be carried out in a certain way, we are actually saying that God says that apologetics ought to be carried out in a certain way. And if that method is contrary to what God says, we have every reason to be concerned. Therefore, I do not find any fault in the fact that Howe is concerned about apologetic method per se.
In II.A of his outline, Howe says, “The broader context
within which my concerns arise has to do with this question: What is the proper
way for Christians to defend the truth of the Christian faith?”
Howe is to be commended for putting it so succinctly. This is indeed the question. Sometimes, believe it or not, we can’t even agree that a “proper” way for apologetics even exists in the first place. Some Christians think that it really doesn’t matter. All that matters is that we are out there doing something. I agree with Howe that there is a proper way for doing Christian apologetics.
Howe is to be commended for putting it so succinctly. This is indeed the question. Sometimes, believe it or not, we can’t even agree that a “proper” way for apologetics even exists in the first place. Some Christians think that it really doesn’t matter. All that matters is that we are out there doing something. I agree with Howe that there is a proper way for doing Christian apologetics.
“The Classical method, in terms of which the Christian is to
marshal arguments and evidence demonstrating that the Christian faith is true.”
[Howe: II.B.1] Howe is careful to point out that he is a classical apologist
and not an evidentialist. There is a difference between these two schools. Once
more, Howe’s clarity helps us understand precisely where he is coming from and
what we can expect. In this bullet Howe is laying out the two concerns before
us. He states there are two ways to answer the question of “proper method” in
Christian apologetics. We can answer it using the classical method or we can
answer it using the presuppositional method. Contextually speaking, Howe is
only dealing with these two methods because he is a classical apologist and his
criticism is directed at presuppositionalism. He is juxtaposing these two
methods, and offering us his convictions for why we should adopt the former as
opposed to the latter.
“The Presuppositional method, in terms of which the truth of
the Christian faith (in its entirety, together with the Bible in its entirety)
must be granted to be true before any knowledge or reasoning (even reasoning
against the Christian faith) is possible.” [Howe II.B.2] In this case, Howe uses
the ambiguous term “granted.” I must confess that I am unclear what Howe means
in this statement. If he means that PA argues that apart from Christian theism,
no knowledge or reasoning is possible, then he is correct about what PA
affirms. However, if Howe means that PA insists that the skeptic confesses,
acknowledge, or believes that Christian theism is true in order to know anything,
then he is incorrect. PA does not assert that men who do not know God in Christ
do not know anything at all, and cannot know anything at all. Common grace
would preclude such foolishness. An atheist knows that 2+2=4 the same as a
believer. The problem I have with the way Howe states it is that it is easy to
mislead someone to believe that this is essentially what PA affirms to be the
case. It is a good deterrent for those who are less informed on the subject to
stay away from that school of thought. I am not accusing Howe of
engaging in manipulative or deception practices. I am accusing him of being
unnecessarily vague in an area where he should have been exceptionally clear.
Howe then classifies Christians into two basic schools of
how they approach the question of doing apologetics: those who say we should and
those who say we should not engage in apologetics. He then classes those who affirm as those who
accept human reason and believe in a rational discourse of the gospel and those
who deny, as those who reject the legitimacy of human reason in almost all
its forms and those who usually just confine their interactions with
unbelievers to proclaiming the gospel. This is a very poor way to classify
people who might respond negatively to Christians doing apologetics. I would
agree that any Christian who says we don’t need to do apologetics is
categorically wrong. However, for some reason Howe distinguishes apologetics
from proclaiming the gospel. Nowhere does Howe offer any justification for this
dichotomy. Howe has no biblical basis for making such a dichotomy as will be demonstrated
below. Secondly, Howe poisons the well by implying that all those who are not
classical apologists are irrational or don’t believe in the legitimacy of
reason. This is a backhanded way of framing the question. Surely Howe knows
that men like Van Til and Greg Bahnsen fully recognized the value of human
reason.
Howe then provides two answers to the question of proper
apologetic method. On the one hand, is it proper to use a rational defense and
evidence, or, on the other hand, is it proper to do apologetics through a
proclamation of Scripture alone. The truth is that Howe is engaging in the
fallacy of bifurcation. He unnecessarily reduces our options to two and one of
the two is really an extreme of the second. By associating reason with classical apologetics, Howe uses an enthymeme to say that every other method is unreasonable.
This begs the question of the place of reason in other methods, and specifically in
presuppositional apologetics. It is not a question of reason, but rather a
question of unaided human reason to be precise. It is a question of autonomous human reason,
apart from God. It is a question of the noetic effects of sin. Howe ignores
this entirely in how he frames out his argument. In addition, Howe continues to
separate gospel proclamation from apologetics without attempt at justification
for this procedure. This is more than a little puzzling.
How then states his specific concern in III.A&B: My
specific and main concern is that the illegitimate method of Presuppositional Apologetics
has hijacked Young Earth Creationism. By this I mean that an overwhelming
majority of those Christian apologists who are defending Young Earth
Creationism are doing so by means of the Presuppositional Apologetic
methodology.” First of all, I am disappointed that Howe uses emotive terms such
as ‘illegitimate’ and ‘hijacked.’ These serve to elicit an emotional response.
On the one hand, they distract the logical thinker with emotions so that his
thinking is impacted. On the other hand, they are a great tactic with less
informed audiences in a culture where critical thinking is an endangered human
behavior. Perhaps YEC has been forced into a PA approach because of its
allegiance to Scripture and logic. A high view of Scripture and a desire for
consistency could be the culprit for why YEC are becoming more and more PA in
their apologetic method. Howe does nothing to address this possibility. He
ignores it entirely. It seems to me that Howe might be better served to ask the
question ‘why’ in this case. Why are YEC moving in a presuppositional trajectory?
What is driving this phenomenon? One does not have to look far to see that a
high view of Scripture coupled with a sound hermeneutic, in addition to the
principle of the analogy of faith could easily move a person to PA. Why is that
difficult to understand? Howe leaves this component of the discussion entirely
unaddressed.
“As a Young Earth creationist, I regret that this model of
creation is being done a disservice by being tethered as much as it is to an
illegitimate apologetic methodology.” [Howe III.D] I am befuddled why any
Christian scholar in a conservative evangelical seminary would object to a
position that simply insists that all men are obligated to believe what the
Word of God affirms regarding the origin of creation on the basis of the fact
that it is the Word of God. What other basis could we discover that is better
than the one God breathed out to us in Scripture? Classical apologists live
under the delusion that we can improve the strength of our arguments with
extra-biblical evidence. While such evidence may be edifying, it does nothing
to increase our faith or the strength of our argument. The only way to increase
the strength of an argument is to provide superior evidence or more witnesses
of the same quality. Extra-biblical evidence does neither. Extra-biblical
evidence is inferior to biblical evidence. Extra-biblical witnesses are always
less credible than biblical ones. Does this mean that extra-biblical evidence has
no value whatsoever? It does not. It simply looks at such evidence with the
right perspective and understands its place in the grand scheme of things. Howe’s
to reference to PA as illegitimate is simply an over the top emotive tactic
that is easily recognizable and confutable.
“As a Classical apologist, I desire to show Young Earth
creationists that the Presuppositional method not only does not serve to
convince the detractors that Young Earth Creationism is true, but it
scandalizes Christians in what constitutes sound apologetics in the first
place.” [Howe III.E] Perhaps this is Howe’s greatest error, not to mention, the
greatest error of many if not most classical apologists. Howe is worried that
PA will not convince detractors that YEC is true. PA is not formulated with the
goal of convincing unbelievers of the truth claims of Christ theism, to include
a young earth. PA is formulated with the sole purpose of humble submission and
obedience to God’s prescribed method for doing apologetics. PA asks the
question how Christians ‘ought’ to go about giving a defensive proclamation of
the gospel, which is what apologetics, and then seeks the Scripture in order to
come up with an answer. PA recognizes that epistemic stalemate is inevitable
but for grace. PA seeks to help Christians faithfully think God’s thoughts
after Him without compromise. It takes the doctrine of depravity seriously. PA
acknowledges that God is sovereign, even over His Church. For this reason, PA
can thunder the gospel defensively without attempting to meet the ungodly
standards of men in order to convince them that Christian theism is true. We
are not called to win debates or persuade men of the truthfulness of Christian
theism or the age of the earth. That is the work of the Holy Spirit. And He
accomplishes His work in human hearts through the foolishness of preaching, not
sophisticated rational argumentation, and historical evidence. Howe says that
PA scandalizes YEC. I have news for Howe, the gospel of the cross is
foolishness to the philosopher, and it is a scandal to the religious. Still,
even though I make these statements, I cannot help but wonder how any
conservative scholar could maneuver himself into such a position where he is
concerned with a method that takes God’s word at face value.
Finally, to close out part one of this response, Howe says, “This
is not to say that every aspect of the Young Earth Creationism case is
undermined by its Presuppositionalism. My concern is how the overall debate
between Young Earth Creationist and Old Earth Creationists is framed by these
Young Earth creationists in the wrong way.” [Howe III.F] How is it framed? PA
argues that a plain reading of Gen. 1-11 indicates that God created world in
six literal days around 6,000-7,000 years ago. If Scripture is God’s word, and
God’s communication is relatively simple, then I must take God’s word to mean
precisely what it says here. The truth is that this approach is offensive to
others in academia. It makes us look non-critical, unscientific, and even anti-intellectual.
In short, it makes us look silly. Therefore, we must come up with a different
way to frame it so that we don’t look quite so silly. We must be able to
maintain some semblance of academic respect among unbelieving liberal scholars
if we are to have any hope of persuading them of the truth of Christian theism. No, we do
not! But for grace, we would all perish. God saves His elect in His time, on
His own terms and we can be sure of the fidelity of our God in this area. Part two will
follow in a few days. That response will contain all the biblical references
refuting, or at least calling into question Dr. Howe’s argument for classical
apologetics and his misguided concern over the relationship between PA and YEC.
Kindly have a deeper study of 2Peter3:1-7. Here, Apostle Peter talked about the cleansings of the earth. Particularly in 2Peter3:5 "For they deliberately overlook this fact, that the heavens existed long ago,(paused)In Genesis1:1 it says that the heavens was created "in the beginning"(and also the earth)Logically, if the heavens was exited long ago, the earth must also had been existed long ago.What about the continuation of 2Peter3:5b "and the earth was formed out of water and through water by the word of God" Did God created the earth again after a long time of existence like the heavens? There is a difference between the verb "create" in Genesis1:1 and the verb "form" in 2Peter3:5
ReplyDeleteApostle Peter could be saying that the earth had undergone cleansing by ice, then by water and this the same earth is stored up for fire.
Then, Genesis1:2 is describing (possibly?) the condition of the earth when it is covered with ice. "The earth was without form and void and darkness was upon the face of the earth" --'darkness' means no light (no heat generation) So it must be very very cold.(ice in every place)
Genesis1:3 (is not a creation, it could be a restoration) Apostle Peter said, the earth was formed by the WORD of God. "Let there be light" When light was restored, heat was generated.
Genesis1:6 "let it separate the waters from the waters.."The heat generated when the light was restored started to melt the ice into water. Gen1:9 ..let the water gather together and let the dry land appear.."
In Genesis1:14, the 24/7 Day/Night cycle restored. Hence, the water cycle and right atmosphere were also restored, in preparation for life to be restored again.
In Genesis1:28 Adam and Eve were instructed to be fruitful and multiply and REPLENISH the earth.(KJV is the only translation that use the word REPLENISH, meaning to refill. It means that there was life before but it was been wiped out)
This is pure conjecture and speculation on your part. There is so much wrong with how you are handling the text that I simply don't have the time to address it all. The subject of Peter's comments is not the cleansing of the earth, but rather the return of Christ and coming judgment. Replenish? I want you to note there is no such word in English as plenish. If you want to know what that word means, find it in Hebrew and look it up in a good Hebrew lexicon. BDB would be a good place to start.
ReplyDeleteDr. Lisle begins, ‘Do we really allow the Bilbe to mean what it says?” But he does not. The text is clear, here: http://textsincontext.wordpress.com/2012/05/03/in-the-beginning/
ReplyDeleteExegetically speaking, there is no good reason not to take the creation account as anything other than six literal days. This is exactly how the Ancient Hebrew would have understood it. There is no reason to think otherwise.
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