Recently, John MacArthur was asked a question about how a
Christian parent should respond to learning that their child is gay. John gave
two basic courses of action based on two very different scenarios. First of
all, if your child is a not a professing Christian, you essentially do nothing
other than love and continue to give them the gospel. However, it is the second
scenario that has Ben Corey over a Patheos seeing red these days. According to
MacArthur, if a Christian parent has a child that is professing to know Christ
while at the same time embracing the gay lifestyle, that is a very different
animal.
In the case of gay children who profess Christ, we must take
a very difficult path. Confessing that Christ reigns in your heart is the
single most serious and solemn confession any human could ever make. It is not
to be done lightly. Those who are aware of the presence of sin must confront
any Christian that professes Christ and that has sin in their life. Our
children are not excluded from this treatment simply on the ground that they
are our children. MacArthur follows the text faithfully even if it is painful.
And for that, he should be respected and applauded. Our spiritual family takes
precedence over our temporal family. Our love for God trumps our love for our
children. These false professions must be dealt with seriously, up to and
including excommunication if they refuse to repent of their sin or admit that
they do not know Christ. There can be no middle ground.
Well, according to Ben Corey, John MacArthur has it all
wrong. On his blog Corey writes,
What
troubles me about MacArthur’s advice, and so many who think like him, is the
horrible inconsistency that often is used when it comes to shunning. One of the
key passages folks use to support shunning comes from 1 Corinthians 5– the
unfortunate truth, however, is that Paul lists several sins he thought were
shun-worthy. Folks like MacArthur have lifted sexual immorality out of that
passage while completely ignoring the rest of what Paul taught.
First of all, at best Corey demonstrates that he does not
know John MacArthur or Grace Community Church very well. People are not removed
from the community only for sexual immorality and to imply that is ridiculous.
I mean, how would Corey know? And if he doesn’t know, is such a statement
slanderous of John MacArthur. Surely it is. Second, are we really to believe
that Corey believes in the practice of Church discipline for all these sins? I
have communicated with Corey personally and I can tell you that he does
everything he can to give homosexual sex a pass. I could not even get him to
admit that homosexuals should have to abstain from sex until marriage even if
such a thing were truly possible. No, there is more to Corey’s objection here
than meets the eye and the hypocrisy only comes into more focus as he continues
with his objection.
Corey then wonders if MacArthur would excommunicate someone
making $200,000 as an annual salary if they did not tithe or give to charity.
Clearly, this demonstrates that not only does Corey not know MacArthur’s views
on these subjects he doesn’t seem to understand what Scripture teaches about
them either. Tithing was a Jewish practice never carried into the Church and it
never involved money. In addition, the amount of money Christians contribute to
the Church giving is a matter of individual conscience and if between that
person and God. The Church is not to police a person’s giving. It is something
that each person should do as their own heart directs and as they have ability.
This is Paul’s teaching to the Corinthians in 2 Cor. 8-9.
The more pressing issue is twofold: excommunicating family
members and Jesus teaching on family relationships within the context of the
kingdom. In Matthew 18:15-18 Christians are commanded by Christ to go to any
brother they see committing a sin. There is no caveat. Jesus did not give us
permission to treat blood relatives differently. In the kingdom, we are all
family. If that brother does not repent of his sin, we are to take witnesses.
If that brother does not repent after hearing the witnesses, we are to take it
to the church. If they do not repent after hearing it from the church, they are
to be excommunicated and treated like unbelievers because of their obstinate
disposition. Corey attempts to bring in a variant reading in the text to
personalize the sin but the variant has little to commend it.
Paul dealt with this in real life but in a more urgent way
in 1 Cor. 5. First, Paul acknowledged that there was immorality among the
Corinthians and that the immorality was of a very serious nature. Apparently a
man had taken his stepmother as his wife. This was forbidden not only in the
Jewish religion but in Roman culture as well. The punishment was severe. It
does not matter if the son was having an unfair (unlikely) as Corey thinks this
might make the situation worse, or that he had married his father’s wife. Moreover,
it does not matter even if the man’s father had died. The act was still
considered reprehensible. Paul’s action was swift and decisive, “Remove the
wicked man from among yourselves.” 1 Cor. 5:13. Not only this, Paul told the
Corinthians that in such cases, “But actually, I wrote to you not to associate
with any so-called brother if he is an immoral person, or covetous, or an
idolater, or a reviler, or a drunkard, or a swindler—not even to eat with such
a one.” (1 Cor. 5:11) Not only were Christians not to allow people in this
community that were living immoral lives, but they were not to eat with immoral
people if they were also professing to be Christians. According to Paul, we may
eat with immoral people so long as they do not profess to be Christian.
Paul gave the very same instructions to the church at
Thessalonica: If anyone does not obey our instruction ain this
letter, take special note of that person band do not associate with
him, so that he will be put to shame. (2 Thess. 3:14) John said the same thing
in 2 John 10-11, “If anyone comes to you and does not bring this teaching, do
not receive him into your house, and
do not give him a greeting; for
the one who gives him a greeting participates in his evil deeds.”
I now want to turn your attention to Jesus to see what Jesus
actually said about Him impact on families as opposed to what men like Ben
Corey claim Jesus said His impact would be on families. Jesus said in Matt.
10:35-37, “For I came to set a man against his father, and a daughter against
her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law; and a man’s
enemies will be the members of his household. “He who loves father or mother
more than Me is not worthy of Me; and he who loves son or daughter more than Me
is not worthy of Me. Jesus knew that devotion to Him, to His life, to His
teachings would cost even intimate families their intimacy and their loyalty
and even their bond.
Jesus also said that brothers and sisters and fathers and
mothers would hate their Christian blood relatives so much that in some cases
they would have them killed: “Brother will betray brother to death, and a
father his child; and children will
rise up against parents and cause them to be put to death. This is a far cry
from the one-sided picture that Ben Corey paints of the Jesus we have all heard
about but apparently not all of us accept Him for who He is. And He is
precisely Who Scripture reveals Him to be.
The problem with Ben Corey, the emergent church, and the
young know-it-alls who are out to redefine everything that has already been
defined is that they have an idea already in mind. They already know, before
reading a single text about Jesus, about God, about Christianity what they want
them and it to be. They want a very specific kind of Jesus, God, and
Christianity. And nothing is going to get in their way of having it; not even
divine truth.
You do not love people by allowing them to remain ignorant
and lost in their sin. It used to be that these people thought that we could
win them with our love and acceptance. They thought that if we just lived a
certain way around unbelievers that unbelievers would be attracted to our
Christianity and give up their wicked behavior and join the group. Now they
don’t even care if the wicked give up their behavior. In fact, they argue that
the wicked should be able to continue in their wicked behavior. They were wrong
then and they are wrong now. These people are not fellow believers within the
Christian community with minor differences from historic orthodox Christianity.
They are wolves seeking to subvert the truth of the gospel top to bottom.
I mentioned hypocrites in my title. While Ben Corey and the
emergent like to refer to conservatives like MacArthur and reformed
Christianity as modern day Pharisees because of our ethic, what they fail to
see is that they are the ones that resemble the Pharisees. You see, the
Pharisees ignored God’s word and set up their own standards and then judged
everyone, not based on God revealed truth, but based on their own traditions
and rules that had gone far beyond anything Scripture taught. When one of these
former fundies criticizes a pastor because he drives a car of a certain value
or a Christian because they earn a certain income, they are guilty of doing
exactly what the Pharisees did. They have established an ethic of their own and
imposed it on others. Moreover, that ethic is the result of twisting the
Scripture. In fact, I have even had conversations with professing Christians at Patheos who were SHOCKED that heterosexual sex outside of marriage was a sin as well. Now, unless this person was a brand new Christian, they were entirely ignorant of the teachings of Christianity. How can someone claim to love Jesus and be so disinterested in His teachings, His ethics, and His values?
When Ben Corey says the Church must accept homosexuals as they are
and challenges the view that homosexual sex is a sin, and demand that we
receive them as regenerated believers, he is setting up his own standard and
judging everyone else according to it. You see, the Pharisees were not wrong
because they were conservative. They were not wrong because they had a
particular ethic. They were wrong because their views subverted God’s word.
They were not wrong because they were not accepting of others. They were wrong
because they rejected what God accepted. It is not ipso facto wrong to reject
someone. There is a place for that. It is wrong to reject what God accepts and
to accept what God rejects. Ben Corey and the emerging church is guilty of resembling the Pharisees because they are accepting homosexual sex when God rejects it. I am reminded of the prophet that
said woe to them that call evil good, and good evil.
Thank you! Great blog. It is troubling that our so-called Christian church (generally) is going down the slippery slope and admonishing un-Biblical views. As scripture says in Romans 1:32: "Although they know the ordinance of God, that those who practice such things are worthy of death, they not only do the same, but also give hearty approval to those who practice them".
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