Much to my surprise, John MacArthur’s “Strange Fire”
conference is causing a great deal of consternation within the
Pentecostal/Charismatic ranks these days. Now, before you go getting all holier
than thou on me and accusing me of blaspheming the Holy Ghost, you should know
I was saved in a Pentecostal church at the age of 14. My conversion took place
at the Crawley Creek Church of God just outside of Chapmanville, WV. For the
first 8-10 years of my life, I was staunchly Pentecostal. I have been to the
healing services, to the miracle services, and to the Holy Ghost crusades and
revivals that Pentecostals so often exalt. I have seen R.W. Schambach, Ernest
Angsley, Jimmy Swaggart, and several others multiple times in person. I do not
speak about Pentecostal theology merely in the abstract; I also speak from
experience. No one knows what goes on in Pentecostal churches and circles any
better than I do. I have been the object of amazing prophecies that never
materialized and have watched others subjected to the same. Some of the
non-sense I have witnessed is enough to make your skin crawl.
My grandma was supposedly healed of diabetes by Earnest
Angsley only to find out when she got back home that life was the same. My
cousin was also proclaimed healed when in fact she died from breast cancer a
few months later. None of these disappointments deterred my commitment to
Pentecostal theology. I was like any other committed devotee. These phenomena
can be multiplied 1000 times over again. Yet, what I find so very fascinating
is the number of non-Pentecostals, even reformed thinkers who are siding more
and more with this theological orientation. Pentecostal theology, broadly
speaking, contains some of the most serious error in the Church and in some
cases, outright heresy. Let’s talk about that.
One of the most disturbing teachings among Pentecostals is
extra-biblical revelation. Pentecostals believe that God speaks to them in a
variety of ways outside of Scripture. God speaks to their minds, gives them
supernatural impressions, He comes to them in dreams, visions, and prophecies
from fellow Pentecostals. In fact, this concept is so prevalent and such an
obsession with this sect that it can serve as one of their defining
characteristics.
In addition to this, Pentecostals believe that there is no
difference between God’s work in Scripture and God's work today in terms of the supernatural
gifts witnessed in the text. In other words, Pentecostals believe that God is
still endowing individuals with the gifts of healing and miracles. The
difficulty with this view is first and foremost, no one individual seems to
possess these gifts with any legitimacy in contemporary times. Now, this is not
a denial that God can and does heal. There is no basis to assert that God never
heals. We have verification of God healing individuals on occasion these days. However, we do not see “healers”
walking around performing healings the way Jesus and the apostles did in Scripture.
We hear claims, we know someone who knows someone who knows someone who claims
to know a faith healer. But for some seemingly inexplicable reason, we can’t
seem to produce a genuine faith healer or miracle worker. There are men, like
the fellows over at Triablogue, who think they can refute my comments using formal
and informal argumentation as if this discussion can be settled in the
abstract. While the attempts are put forth with diligence and sincerity, they
fall flat. You see, not every truth is established by rational argumentation.
Some truths are established by empirical means. And this would be one of them.
The argument that faith healers and miracle workers are out there continuing to
do what the apostles did is an empirical claim, and as such, can be tested
empirically. After all, if I make the assertion that fire does not burn to the
touch, the most efficient way to test my claim is through empirical verification.
Faith healers and miracles workers must be subjected to empirical verification
to determine if their claims hold up. Investigation after investigation of
these claims, have shown them to range from the extremely nebulous story to
proof of outright fraud. The best way to defend the legitimacy of the claim to
miracle workers and genuine healings is to provide indisputable empirical
vindication. For that proof, we are still waiting.
The Devil Could be in the Theological Details
Concerning “The Baptism with the Holy Spirit,” the
Assemblies of God teaches, “All believers are entitled to and should ardently
expect and earnestly seek the promise of the Father, the baptism in the Holy
Spirit and fire, according to the command of our Lord Jesus Christ. This was
the normal experience of all in the early Christian Church. With it comes the
enduement [sic] of power for life and service, the bestowment of the
gifts and their uses in the work of the ministry. This experience is distinct from and subsequent to the
experience of the new birth. With
the baptism in the Holy Spirit come such experiences as, an overflowing
fullness of the Spirit, a deepened reverence for God, an intensified
consecration to God and dedication to His work, and a more active love for
Christ, for His Word and for the lost.”
The Assemblies of God is the largest Pentecostal
denomination in the world. Moreover, this particular teaching on Spirit Baptism
is widely held by all Pentecostals with very little variance. In this teaching
we see the assertion that one has not been baptized in the Holy Spirit when
they are initially converted to Christ. The experience is distinct from
conversion and regeneration. Secondly, this specific experience is viewed as a
commandment of Christ. In other words, we are in charge of baptizing ourselves
with the Holy Spirit. I am not sure how that works, but this is their statement
of faith. People who have this experience are supposedly able to have deeper reverence
for God, a more intensified consecration to God, and greater dedication to God’s
work, and a more active love for Christ and for His Word as well as for the
lost. In other words, if you do not have this experience, you are utterly deficient
in all of these areas when compared to the Pentecostal. My purpose here is not
to engage with these assertions in order to refute. That is been done
repeatedly over the years. My purpose is to point out the very public
theological positions of these groups so that we can understand just how
dangerous and abhorrent their teachings actually tend to be.
Again, the AOG statement asserts that, “The baptism of
believers in the Holy Spirit is witnessed by the initial physical sign of
speaking with other tongues as the Spirit of God gives them utterance.” In
other words, unless you are speaking in tongues, you have not been baptized in
the Holy Spirit. This is a very dangerous teaching and clearly contrary to the
teachings of Scripture. There is a serious conundrum here. If the Holy Spirit
is the one who enables me to speak in tongues and I am not in charge of the
Holy Spirit, can is it that Christ commands me to be baptized in the Holy
Spirit? If He is the baptizer, why am I commanded to do what only He is able to
do? This is all very confusing. It is more than just a little contradictory. It
is downright irrational.
Once more, the AOG affirms that divine healing is included
in the atonement as do most all Pentecostals as far as I know: “Divine healing
is an integral part of the gospel. Deliverance from sickness is provided for in
the atonement, and is the privilege of all believers.” If this were true, then
no one who is actually cleansed from sin and forgiven in Christ should ever get
sick. This teaching among Pentecostals deserves to be rooted out for the
cruelty it inflicts on people.
The Church of God, another very large Pentecostal
denomination asserts the following about sanctification: “In sanctification
subsequent to the new birth, through faith in the blood of Christ; through the
Word, and by the Holy Ghost.” According to this teaching, you can be fully
regenerated by the Spirit of Christ, but not at all sanctified. How could a
born again person ever be “not sanctified.” I once asked a COG minister if born
again people could go to hell. He said no. I then asked if an unsanctified
person could go to heaven. He said of course not. So I said what happens to the
born again person who is not yet sanctified if they die. He literally had no
answer. I was stunned! It is part of their statement of faith! The COG also
believes that the Holy Spirit baptism is evidenced by speaking in other
tongues. In their doctrinal commitments, the COG affirms that divine healing is
provided for all in the atonement.
The single greatest threat that Pentecostalism poses to
Biblical Christianity is its view on divine revelation. It amounts to
materially the same kind of view that the Roman Church takes toward the
Magisterium essentially. The Pentecostal believes that God speaks to them and
even commands them outside of Scripture. This process is an entirely subjective
process that usually takes the form of some impression, or feeling, or perhaps
a dream or supposed vision. In addition to these vehicles, God speaks through
inspired divine utterances of their prophets. And how do these prophets know
its God and not their own mind? Quite honestly, they don’t. The defense is that
you better believe their word or else you are opposing the Holy Ghost. When the
Pentecostal hears from God via any of these vehicles, who is anyone else to
question or oppose it.
In addition to these large denominations, there are
literally thousands of Pentecostal denominations in existence, each with their
own little nuanced beliefs, giving occasion for their separation and division
from the others. The Pentecostal notion of revelation is would be naturally
attractive to any highly individualistic culture like America. The individual
and their subjective feelings, impressions, dreams, and visions displace the
authority of Scripture in some cases and augment it for the individual in many
others. In many cases these special cases of revelation run contrary to
Scripture. In many cases, they are just plain silly. And in some cases, they
are very damaging and disturbing. In all cases, they injure the testimony and
witness of the Christian community by making a mockery of the sacredness of
divine revelation. The experiences of the Prophets and Apostles in Scripture in
no way resemble the claims of modern Pentecostals. Biblical interactions with
God were far more profound and far more serious than these emotion driven
downgrades we hear from the Pentecostal camps.
In Summary
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Pentecostal extra biblical
revelation undermines the Christian view of Scripture, mocks God speaking, is
impossible to defend, introduces mild error to outright heresy in the Christian
community.
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Pentecostal theology claims
that regenerate born again Christians are not filled with the Holy Spirit.
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Pentecostal theology denies
that regenerate people are not ipso facto sanctified by the very fact of their
conversion. Sanctification is a distinct experience from regeneration.
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Pentecostal theology
asserts that healing was provided for in the atonement.
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Pentecostal theology holds
that faith healers and miracles workers remain active to this day despite no
evidence for their claims. These are empirical claims and require empirical
verification. They are not claims in the abstract, nor are they historical
claims.
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Pentecostal theology also
denies the doctrine of perseverance and even repudiates the very idea of
eternal security.
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Pentecostal theology has a
disturbing view of Christ’s atonement, holding that the believer is not
eternally secure can only mean that Christ’s atonement is less than sufficient
for the forgiveness of sins, even for those who do endure. What is required is
Christ’s death plus the enduring works of the individual. More needs to be said
about this doctrine.
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Finally, Pentecostals deny
the role of men in leadership positions, asserting that God places women and
men in eldership or pastoral roles.
There are many other views that Pentecostals espouse that
are even more disturbing than the ones I reference here. For example, the view
of tongues and Spirit Baptism is also held by all the oneness Pentecostals as
well. Their experience of these phenomena and their views of these gifts are
identical with the exception that they deny the Triune God of Scripture.
Scripture is sufficient.
Here is just one of a thousand good reasons for the Strange Fire Conference. Nothing mocks Christianity more than this vile and blasphemous folly. This IS Pentecostalism and even for the few conservative ones within that camp, they can mount nor reasonable argument against this truly contemptible behavior.
Click here to view the video clip
Here is just one of a thousand good reasons for the Strange Fire Conference. Nothing mocks Christianity more than this vile and blasphemous folly. This IS Pentecostalism and even for the few conservative ones within that camp, they can mount nor reasonable argument against this truly contemptible behavior.
Click here to view the video clip
My mother was healed from trigeminal neuralgia.She never got sick again.
ReplyDeleteThe promsises of God, are still valid today.
"Examine yourself,to see if you are in the faith"
My reply may be a ramble and randomized- as I think on your article-
ReplyDeleteDo YOU believe that the Spirit leads us, in order that His message get through to whom He is seeking to counsel ? Are we not all the HANDS and feet of Jesus ?
I think that the church that you went to as a younger person misled you~ The Assembly Of God Church I attend (though I don't claim to be Pentecostal) Knows and preaches that ALL healings and prayer answered are OF God and not of man. We also KNOW that we have a Triune God. Furthermore- we agree with Christ that there is neither man, woman, slave or free, Greek or Jew once we accept Christ. He views us ALL as equals.
You can not JUDGE what we- who ALSO LOVE and serve Christ feel and know- by the televangelists and RICH ministries of NOW and of history OR by your younger self.
God provides that there are multiple denominations- so that He can reach people of different personality and realities.
I for one do not want to kneel or respond with memorized responses on command. Yet others NEED that type of service- they PREFER a known order and routine and pomp and pageantry. It gives them the opportunity to draw closer (or not)to God.
As for speaking in tongues- Who are you to say that it is NOT available to everyone who desires that ? Could it not be that those who seek it have no fear in asking ? SO they receive it?
Many in other denominations DISLIKE and mock their OWN denomination for having a second service for a more modern style and music- a freer service. Where is the CHRIST like LOVE in that ?
POINT BEING- We are ALL sinners- we all have the potential to GROW or to FALL. Each true Christian is given the choice to serve or to divide-
Each Christian no matter the denomination is asked to serve His kingdom with love toward mankind- in order that we may draw people CLOSER to God- so that THEY TOO will want to meet Jesus.
People who earn a living by being on a circuit- or performing Christian music- or writing books should be held more accountable ,as they are accepting the role of TEACHER- His word says that they will be held MORE accountable for those they have harmed with their 'works'. There are a few well known’s now preaching prosperity- while they gather their OWN wealth from people who can not afford to pay their utilities---- HOWEVER-- these very people are reaching multiple hurting souls with God's REAL promises too- OUR hope and prayer should be that ALL people grow IN Christ- so that THEY may see and discern the parts they should eliminate from the teachers works.
My reply may be a ramble and randomized- as I think on your article-
ReplyDeleteDo YOU believe that the Spirit leads us, in order that His message get through to whom He is seeking to counsel ? Are we not all the HANDS and feet of Jesus ?
I think that the church that you went to as a younger person misled you~ The Assembly Of God Church I attend (though I don't claim to be Pentecostal) Knows and preaches that ALL healings and prayer answered are OF God and not of man. We also KNOW that we have a Triune God. Furthermore- we agree with Christ that there is neither man, woman, slave or free, Greek or Jew once we accept Christ. He views us ALL as equals.
You can not JUDGE what we- who ALSO LOVE and serve Christ feel and know- by the televangelists and RICH ministries of NOW and of history OR by your younger self.
God provides that there are multiple denominations- so that He can reach people of different personality and realities.
I for one do not want to kneel or respond with memorized responses on command. Yet others NEED that type of service- they PREFER a known order and routine and pomp and pageantry. It gives them the opportunity to draw closer (or not)to God.
As for speaking in tongues- Who are you to say that it is NOT available to everyone who desires that ? Could it not be that those who seek it have no fear in asking ? SO they receive it?
Many in other denominations DISLIKE and mock their OWN denomination for having a second service for a more modern style and music- a freer service. Where is the CHRIST like LOVE in that ?
POINT BEING- We are ALL sinners- we all have the potential to GROW or to FALL. Each true Christian is given the choice to serve or to divide-
Each Christian no matter the denomination is asked to serve His kingdom with love toward mankind- in order that we may draw people CLOSER to God- so that THEY TOO will want to meet Jesus.
People who earn a living by being on a circuit- or performing Christian music- or writing books should be held more accountable ,as they are accepting the role of TEACHER- His word says that they will be held MORE accountable for those they have harmed with their 'works'. There are a few well known’s now preaching prosperity- while they gather their OWN wealth from people who can not afford to pay their utilities---- HOWEVER-- these very people are reaching multiple hurting souls with God's REAL promises too- OUR hope and prayer should be that ALL people grow IN Christ- so that THEY may see and discern the parts they should eliminate from the teachers works.
I agree with you whole heartedly. I have always been telling my fellow Christians, to assert that when Jesus said, (paraphrasing)"...you will do greater things than I..." that this applies to us today then we have to take that scripture out of context.
ReplyDeleteTheologically, Jesus was only talking to the apostles and so at it's core it only applies to the apostles.
Anyways, good blog, VERY good blog.
I love when Pentecostals leave comments and arguments on my blog. They make my points for me far better than I ever could.
ReplyDeleteI too was raised in an Assembly of God Church, all my life. At the age of 38 I finally heard the Gospel. The preacher was not yelling, he was not running around the church, he was not speaking a language that is really not a language at all. He took the Bible read it and explained what happened at the cross in such detail, my life has never been the same. I agree with you. I was actually somewhat angry the first couple of years after I was saved because I thought all this time, I had not heard the truth. Now I understand they themselves are ignorant and I don't mean that in a mean way but it's true, they are ignorant in so many areas of the Bible. John Macarthur has struck a nerve because the truth always does that. The truth makes most people angry, however I pray the truth might just set some free. God Bless!
ReplyDeleteThank you Kim for giving us a wonderful and gracious testimony of the work of God in your heart. It is so encouraging to see God working in the hearts of His children! Take care.
ReplyDeleteYou want to be healed go to the prayer closet and ask your Heavenly Father in Jesus Christ name to heal you. You DO NOT need any charlatan money scaming faith healer that perverts God's word. God still heals his elect that follow his word and sincerely try to live by it. We are all sinners till we come to Jesus Christ and he covers us in his grace and mercy. Have a Blessed Day.
ReplyDeleteThe problem with your theology Michael is first of all, it does not comport with Scripture nor does it reflect reality. A person asks for God to heal them, they don't get healed, and you are telling them that it is because of some defect in their Christian life. How encouraging is that? How long have you been in the Christian way?
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